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Postby WCM » Fri May 11, 2007 1:20 pm

First, I smoke, mainly because of the fact that I drink frequently and hang out with a bunch of smokers. Eventually, it became a "when in Rome" type thing. So yes, more bar patrons are probably smokers than not.

Still, I don't see at all how this is a bad thing. If you don't want to believe smoking or second hand smoke is bad for you, well, OK, but you can't deny the following: It smells, it stains your teeth, makes you cough, can make you short of breath, and weathers your skin. God knows how many times I've gone out, got drunk, started chain smoking, and woke up feeling like I licked and ash try and had been chewing on a dead rat. So at the very least, it has side affects.

Why should people who choose not to smoke be subject to those same side affects? And please, the "choose to go somewhere else" argument is lame. Smokers have the right to go wherever they want but if a non-smoker wants to go somewhere without smoke there are only a select few places? This way, everyone can go wherever they want and smokers can just do their thing where it doesn't bother anyone.

PIB was relatively crowded last weekend, especially the Round House. From where I was, it was more challenging to fight the crowd to go to the bathroom than it was to go out back and smoke. You'll get used to it and trust me, you won't have any less fun at the bars on the bay :)

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Postby pbosak » Fri May 11, 2007 1:36 pm

I guess we all have our own opinions. I guess now it's the smokers turn to "Deal with it or leave." Personally I hope you deal with it. I really don't agree with your question and answers Capt. Personally I think the bars will do better (or the same) now since those non-smokers who have decided to "leave it" when the bars were smokey will go to the bars. Time will tell though. If people can't go without a smoke for a couple hours when they're at the bar or are too lazy to walk outside to smoke, that's pretty sad. I also think it's sad that smokers now have to respect the air all of us are breathing and are complaining about it. Like I said, the majority has spoken overwhelmingly. Be us Sheeples or not. lol

Captain Matt, if you're truly as passionate about this subject as you appear to be (unless you just love debating) you should start doing something now because it's almost certain people will try to ban smoking in MI before too long.

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Postby captain matt » Fri May 11, 2007 1:47 pm

I love debating and smoking equally. Along with drinking and strippers they consitiute the 4 great joys in my life.

Rivaled only by my wife and daughter.
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Postby captain matt » Fri May 11, 2007 1:59 pm

captain matt wrote:I love debating and smoking equally. Along with drinking and strippers they consitiute the 4 great joys in my life.

Rivaled only by my wife and daughter.

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The wife and daughter are actually surpassing the holy 4.
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Postby pbosak » Fri May 11, 2007 2:11 pm

Damn Matt,
With that last quote, almost sounds like you're getting responsible. Say it isn't so. lol Good for you.

At least we can agree on the drinking and strippers as being great loves of our lives. :lol:

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Postby captain matt » Fri May 11, 2007 2:31 pm

WCM wrote:Still, I don't see at all how this is a bad thing.

Just another classic example of the gov't chipping away rights one at a time in the name of health, safety or security. It's your basic libertarian point of view.

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked or unsefe and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
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Postby captain matt » Fri May 11, 2007 2:33 pm

Goering was one of the highest-ranking Nazis who survived to be captured and put on trial for war crimes in the city of Nuremberg by the Allies after the end of World War II.
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Postby captain matt » Fri May 11, 2007 2:35 pm

pbosak wrote:Damn Matt,
With that last quote, almost sounds like you're getting responsible. Say it isn't so. lol Good for you.

At least we can agree on the drinking and strippers as being great loves of our lives. :lol:

Scary ain't it! I'll always love the holy 4 though.
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Postby kindy52 » Wed May 16, 2007 7:30 am

UPDATE: 4-Alarm Apartment Complex Fire In Woodlawn
Posted By: Lynn Giroud

Photographed by: Tyson Thorp


Fire investigators say a cigarette thrown into mulch may have been what sparked a fast-moving fire that destroyed a Woodlawn apartment building.

The fire broke out at about 4 p.m. Tuesday at "The Commons" apartment complex on Springfield Pike.

It started outside in a mulch bed and quickly spread to bushes, then onto the apartment building.

More than 10 fire departments and 100 firefighters responded.

They arrived to find flames shooting from the roof of the three-story building.

Everyone was able to get out of the building. The only injury was a firefighter who injured his ankle.

There were 24 units in the two buildings involved in the fire.

All of those residents have to find new homes because the buildings were so damaged, they'll have to be torn down.

The Red Cross is providing hotel rooms and other assistance for the victims, some of whom lost everything.

Christina and Tim Begley, who have a six-month-old son, are counting their blessings.

Usually Christina would be home with the baby, but on Tuesday they were at the pediatrician's office when the fire broke out.

"We're on the third floor of the worst section, so I can't get my head around if we would've been in there," said Christina Begley.

"In the end, everything that gives our lives meaning and is important to us is right here, so that was salvaged," said Tom Begley, "and in the end, it's just stuff that we lost today" said Tom Begley.

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Re: RIGHT NEXT DOOR!

Postby Mister Kay » Wed May 16, 2007 8:19 am

kindy52 wrote:UPDATE: 4-Alarm Apartment Complex Fire In Woodlawn
Posted By: Lynn Giroud

Photographed by: Tyson Thorp


Fire investigators say a cigarette thrown into mulch may have been what sparked a fast-moving fire that destroyed a Woodlawn apartment building.

The fire broke out at about 4 p.m. Tuesday at "The Commons" apartment complex on Springfield Pike.

It started outside in a mulch bed and quickly spread to bushes, then onto the apartment building.

More than 10 fire departments and 100 firefighters responded.

They arrived to find flames shooting from the roof of the three-story building.

Everyone was able to get out of the building. The only injury was a firefighter who injured his ankle.

There were 24 units in the two buildings involved in the fire.

All of those residents have to find new homes because the buildings were so damaged, they'll have to be torn down.

The Red Cross is providing hotel rooms and other assistance for the victims, some of whom lost everything.

Christina and Tim Begley, who have a six-month-old son, are counting their blessings.

Usually Christina would be home with the baby, but on Tuesday they were at the pediatrician's office when the fire broke out.

"We're on the third floor of the worst section, so I can't get my head around if we would've been in there," said Christina Begley.

"In the end, everything that gives our lives meaning and is important to us is right here, so that was salvaged," said Tom Begley, "and in the end, it's just stuff that we lost today" said Tom Begley.

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Camp fires cause more fires than almost anything else, should we outlaw those????? Why not let the government ban them and everything else that is any fun at all because they could cause a fire.

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Postby captain matt » Wed May 16, 2007 8:43 am

Update:
Fireplaces cause mroe home fires than any other cause. New Ohio ban on chimneys making it's way through the senate.
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Postby Bullette » Wed May 16, 2007 8:44 am

This makes me think of a story... My dad came home [banned] one night, and fell asleep with a cigarette in his mouth. My mom was so ticked off that she took his cigarette and took it to the mattress of the bed (they had a waterbed) in a few spots... My dad woke up a while later and this is what she heard "Son of a [banned], I pissed myself".....

He never knew that she had burned the holes in the mattress, and always thought he had pissed himself!
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Postby Mister Kay » Wed May 16, 2007 12:04 pm

So.......he didn't notice the holes and the water coming out of the bed?????????? :?

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Postby Bullette » Wed May 16, 2007 12:37 pm

nope! not at all!
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Postby kindy52 » Wed May 16, 2007 3:04 pm

You're right, more unnecissary fires, the better!

In all seriousness, I do wish more smokers didn't litter. Most all I have seen, do. When the football team I used to coach had to clean up the stands at the game field, it was filled with cigarette butts. I couldn't tell my kids to pick up that $hit.
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