Ottawa Indians want to claim North Bass Island.

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Ottawa Indians want to claim North Bass Island.

Postby islander » Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:54 am

I was wondering how most people feel about the Ottawa Indians trying to take part of North Bass to keep a "fishing fleet" (wink, wink) there? This could have a huge impact on the whole N.W. Ohio, if they do get the island and don't stick to their word. However I don't feel that the State has the 17 million they just spent to aquire most of the island to chalk up as a loss.
My opinion is if they were really only going to use the island for fishing, then fine as it might be nice to see a little low impact industry over there, but I think they really have something else up their sleeves, and its not fishing boats, it may however be a fleet of ferry boats...a casino or maybe they'll sell to a developer for a nice tidy profit. All after we have flipped the bill.
Now I'm part Cherokee Indian and you don't see me running down to Georgia trying to claim back Atlanta. That was like 200 years ago, I don't hold those folks whole live there now responsible. I'm also not going after the US Govt. now over the deaths of relatives during the Trail of Tears, however big the shame of it, the fact is the people living today didn't have control over it or had anything to do with it.
And its been alot longer than 200 years since any Indians lived on NB, if they ever did, it was prior to the 16 century, they lived on the mainland, Middle Bass, Pelee, PIB and Kellys. Now there is a small burial ground on the island, and when the remains were dug up and taken for study, they were dated 1200 AD. That was a 1000 years ago. Island history states that the indians thought of NB as a mystical island and that is where they at one time buried their relatives, again that was a 1000 years ago.

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Postby mobay » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:40 am

I thought North Bass Island was just a big vinyard?
I miss the old Mr. Ed's. I still hate the Beer Barrel. I'm diggin' Hooligans. And Mills isn't the only hot guy up there now with a bald head!

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Postby Taz » Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:24 pm

I'm against that.
It happened at the bay, and man, I can't even remember her name!!!!!!!!!

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Postby islander » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:31 pm

In regards to mobay's question: North Bass was the largest vineyard in Ohio, about 450 acres of vines, but that was before the State purchased the island. Last year they took out all but like 40 acres of grapes, which those are leased out to Firelands Winery in Sandusky.
What does the State plan to do with North Bass? Well they intend to make it a State Park. It will cater more towards ecotourism type of activities, like bird watching (I guess North Bass plays an important roll in the way of bird migration in the area) hiking, walking tails, and rough camping on a permit type basis. This however I think is a few years down the line, at this time they are focusing more on Lonz's and the marina there, which they should first.
Whats on North Bass? Well nothing really, the only place to spend money on the island is at the post office. There is the last operating one room school house in the state, one of only five in the country (it will close at the end of this school year though), a beautiful century old church, a cemetery, a beautiful 1872 wine cellar (which is now a private cottage) an airstrip, historic homes, most of which were built in the 1860's and lots and lots of nature.
What does the island have to offer? History and nature, along with peace and quiet. NB played a huge part in the history of the Lake Erie Islands and those who founded them. It was NB that sealed the foundation that would become known as the famous Lake Erie Wine Islands. (there were times in the 1800's that North Bass had more people living there than were on Put in Bay.)
North Bass really is a treasure, not in what it has became, but in what it has remained, if you know what I mean. But all the islands are treasures. They each are all so different and that is what makes them each so special. How lucky we are to have these wonderful islands at our finger tips. I've boated around the country and no place so far, other than maybe the Virgin Islands, can compare. It makes me almost sad for all those poor souls who don't have the luxury of spending time on Lake Erie and her beautiful islands.
And if the Ottawa Indians take North Bass, it all could change, not just one island, all of them.

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Postby candita4 » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:00 pm

Thanks [banned], I really enjoyed the history lesson. Please keep it up! Most of us have no idea of the history of the islands!

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Postby Mills » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:04 am

Yea that was awesome I never knew even half of all that history!! Thanks for the info and feel free to keep it coming!!
Mills, from Cincinnati

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Postby lake-erie-pirate » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:03 am

Great post, [banned].
The Lake Erie Islands truly are a treasure. I only wish I would have found them sooner. I've lived in central Ohio my entire life and didn't find the Islands until seven years ago.
Better late than never.
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Postby Taz » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:41 pm

Never too late to learn something.
It happened at the bay, and man, I can't even remember her name!!!!!!!!!

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Postby lake-erie-pirate » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:46 pm

I know quite a bit about the history of the Islands. I write a column for the Put-in-Bay Gazette that focuses on historical island collectables that come up on eBay.
I do quite a bit of research on the items in my column and provide some historical context. Some of the pieces that I've come across have a lot of historical significance.
I collect all the history books I can get my hands on.
8)

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Postby islander » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:24 pm

Priate, I know who you are, well I mean I read your column every month, and I may have purchased a thing or two of those historical items you report on. I like your column very much, I think you do a nice job on informing the general public on interesting historical info on the islands, that people otherwise wouldn't understand or are aware of. I also send historical info and old news paper articles in to the Gazette every once in a while, when I find something I think people might enjoy or find surprising. Not that often, couple times a year or so.
I too read all I can get my hands on and I pretty much drill every old timer I come across, and with in the next few years you might be reading my book. (okay now all those who live on the islands might have just figured out who I am, if you haven't already by all that has been written both here and in regards to the Ottawa Indians) I plan to write something with a twist to it, it will focus on more than just history.
I think with in the next two months there is going to be a very very interesting book going to be released. I'm waiting on the edge of my seat for it, as it too is something that hasn't been done before on island history and life. I just don't know how it couldn't be good. I'm not sure but you may know who and what I'm referring to, I just don't want to mention any names with out their prior consent. However if your not aware, just know you have something new and fresh to look forward to reading this summer.....Keep up the good work.

lake-erie-pirate

Postby lake-erie-pirate » Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:38 pm

We need to get together and compare notes.

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Postby islander » Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:54 pm

I would be up for it. I love to history network, if you know what I mean. Were you on the LEIHS tour last Aug.? If so we may have already met.

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Postby lake-erie-pirate » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:39 am

Send me an email at:
rwolfe@adw1.com

I can't seem to get a private message through to you.


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